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If this is such an amazing idea, why didn't they do it years ago? This is all clearly an effort to cut as much cost as they can out of building the vehicle due to recent economic strain on buyers who are sick of $60k vehicles. And therefore I am MOST anxious to see how this translates to the...

I looked at the Trailseeker also. Very interesting vehicle. The interior is where it falls behind. Very Toyota, i.e. dirt cheap. Looks like Rubbermaid was contracted to make the interior. And the placement of that 1980s LCD looking gauge cluster is horrific. It's a shame because the rest...

The more I read and contemplate, the less excited I become about the Fathom. So I ended up following my own chain of thought and picked up a used Mach-E. There are a TON of these coming in off lease right now, in excellent condition, with anywhere from 10k to 40k miles on them and they can be...

When I leased my F-150 Lightning, I took advantage of this promotion. Ford sent a couple of technicians out to my house, and they completely wired up an awesome 60-amp charger for me at no cost to me. The Ford Power Promise promotion was literally the thing that got me to sign papers. Without...

I have actually been looking at used Mach-E cars, and I saw something that jogged my memory. A lot of guys say they've got the interior fogging issue on the Mach-E that also plagues the Lightning. For example, if you set out on a one hour trip, from time to time the interior glass will just...

I mean, it's blatantly obvious that Ford is taking a page out of the Tesla book with the build design of this vehicle. They've essentially copied a LOT of ideas. But that doesn't mean it'll look like a Tesla inside. I fully expect the fonts, controls, etc. to have a very Ford look to them...

Thanks. Every forum needs the resident @sshole. It keeps things interesting. Now we know who that is going to be around here. 😉

The issue with using the Lightning as a home backup generator is that the power curve doesn't play well with the high-current items in a typical house, especially the HVAC system. And if you're not going to be able to use the HVAC system (or stove, water heater, etc.) then what's the point...

I remember when they expected to sell 100k or more units of the Lightning annually. And then they didn't. Granted, Fathom is half the price. But, it also is half as capable as a pickup. So we'll see...

One thing about Ford Motor Company, when they find a formula that sells, they don't like messing with it. Particularly true on the trucks. A Maverick with a battery pack. Ok, well that would be an improvement over the renders I've seen, because with the camo on these Fathoms they are HIDEOUS...

That's a good question. I do know that on the Lightning trucks, there were quite a few reports of HVAC system failures. My 2025 was one of them. The HVAC system had a control module/unit of some kind fail, and that was the only issue I had with the truck. Also, a point of interest is that...

Yeah, to be fair obsolescence is going to be an issue with ALL electric vehicles. The ICE powertrain basically reached its peak many decades ago. Yeah, they continue to tweak it, but the basic principles have reached their peak long before any of us were born. Not true of EVs...which are...

Hmmm... belt line looks really high, but roof line looks low. Like a late model Camaro. Visibility could be an issue. I understand that it's camo'd right now, but the proportions look terrible. Edit: after further inspection it appears they may be intentionally throwing the proportions...

In terms of aero, I can't imagine that Fathom has better drag coefficient than Mach-E which is essentially bubble/tear drop shaped. And we know Mach-E generally nets about 3.0 mi/kWh on average if you talk to a bunch of owners. I'd say with a little bitty 57 kW pack, 200 miles in a Fathom...

Respectfully, no, we can't agree on that. My ownership experience with the Lightning was fantastic. I felt like the dealers bent over backwards to make me happy, even more so than they always used to do with my gasoline-powered trucks. Like I said, parts availability and service were never an...

That's really surprising. Just about 6 months ago, I had an air conditioning failure on my 2025 Lightning, and the dealership had it fully repaired in 3 days.

For whatever it's worth, here in Kentucky I saw a roughly 25% decrease in range during winter with my F-150 Lightning. It was the "medium range" 123 kWh usable battery pack, so I'm assuming it was NMC. I drive around the speed limit always. I kept the HVAC on low just to keep it comfy in the...

First they removed AM. Now they are taking away FM. It's a shame. I'll never forget listening to the President address the nation via FM radio in my truck 9-11-01.

I'm eagerly waiting for an interview with an engineer where the question of durability is asked. You can only shed weight so much before durability begins to suffer. Is this thing going to be "built Ford tough" or not? I want to hear it from the horse's mouth.

Another consideration: In most cases, the faster you charge a battery the less healthy it is for the battery. REALLY fast charging reduces lifespan. I'm not sure if that's true of these cheaper LFP batteries, because most EVs in the U.S. don't use them. But that was the rule on most EV...