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So I will ask again, what is the point? 2nd row storage behind the seat? Drive with it partially open but below the roof line? I just don't see one... Open to input...

Interesting.... Thanks for posting. What would be the utility of this? Storage behind 2nd row? But you have to move stuff in the bed for it to open? I can't see this being better than a midgate due to additional height and drag at speed.

https://www.grangerford.com/ Is down the road from me, near Des Moines, Iowa. They are probably the most well-known fly and drive dealer for Ford in the last few years. I've had a good experience there. I leased my Lightning from there and it was very pain-free. I'm happy with my experience...

I hope Ford has better luck with this plan than they did with Retail Replenishment Program that focused solely on EVs.... https://fordauthority.com/2025/02/ford-ev-inventory-hub-system-scrapped-after-dealer-pushback/

Point taken but I will counter that wages haven't kept up with inflation... Less money to go around for bills...

Thanks for the response! Has this been open for a while ?

This Car and Driver article mentioned a pre-pre-order list...

Update 10/01/2026: A Ford spokesperson told Electrek, “We’ve said previously, ‘Fathom will launch in 2027 ‘- and there is no change to that.” https://electrek.co/2026/10/01/fords-30000-ev-pickup-production-launch-faces-uncertainty/

https://fordauthority.com/2026/09/ceo-jim-farley-says-ford-fathom-production-might-not-happen-in-2027/

Bummer but not surprised given my day job being in the same industry and understanding first hand how these timelines slip...

Great find! I hope this comes to fruition. Looks useful.

When I leased my Lightning, they offered $500 credit or the Power Promise. I took the $500 off my lease total and bought an Emporia refurbished charger for $372 and wired it in myself. Money ahead. But I prefer DIY methods. Do some research on the third party that Ford used for this and some...

I have the fogging issue every once in a while on my Lightning. As mentioned, it's when relative humidity outside is very high. But I absolutely hated the Tesla Model 3 that I drove and the software overriding the settings that I picked on a long road trip. It drove me crazy enough that I...

I personally don't like this. I hope that this vehicle still feels like a Ford and not 100% like a Tesla. @rileyfromford are you listening? For the record, I'm not against Tesla. I just don't want a Model 3 experience from an infotainment and HVAC controls perspective. I want it to still feel...

You know something the rest of us don't that happens on approximately December 1st?

For Fathoms? Or just car sales in general?

Amen

Show me several dozen threads and I'll stop calling you out... My only issue is your over-exaggeration. Just be accurate. No one comes to a forum and tells the world that there's nothing wrong with their truck. Statistically, the repairs versus the trucks that are on the road that have no...

As a current Lightning owner, and an active participant on that forum, I find this post inaccurate and misleading. No one has a completely bricked truck. It might be at a dealer waiting for parts, but it's not unrecoverable. It's not a Fisker Ocean....

I'm not saying they're not going to give any information until the order guide is released. I'm just saying that I'm going to take everything I hear with a grain of salt until I see it in the order guide and how that corresponds to how you order an actual vehicle.