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  1. Tim says fully loaded Fathom well below mid 30's

    I am curious about your question and if Ford will follow it's traditional XL, XLT, Lariat, Platinum convention for trims. Or of they abandon it on favor of something different. It feels like Ford is trying to reach a different demographic with the Fathom than your traditional Ford truck buyer...
  2. Tim says fully loaded Fathom well below mid 30's

    Not to single out Bob, but these are the posts I will remember and bring back from the dead when Ford releases actual battery range numbers. We have a pretty good idea it's a 57 kwh LFP pack for standard range. 300 miles divided by 57 kwh equals 5.2 miles per kwh... This is why I think you're...
  3. Something Important, Say No to Door handles.

    I think the current crop of EVs and their design choices to eliminate actual door handles and other tech-forward choices have really hurt their ability to reach widespread adoption. This thread is a good example of old-school buyers who are interested but are turned off by certain design...
  4. Ford Fathom Design Wishlist: High-Efficiency Colors & Smoother Multi-EV Home Integration

    Immediately turned off 1 pedal driving in my Lightning. Way too strong on deceleration and no way to adjust. Ford, just give buyers the option to turn on and off 1 pedal depending on preference. But I do love the Auto-hold feature.
  5. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    Edit: Might have to eat my words. Thanks for posting.
  6. Fathom vs. Mach-E

    I think overall for the entire EV market, the challenge selling new ones is the great value a used EV is right now.
  7. Ford Fathom Design Wishlist: High-Efficiency Colors & Smoother Multi-EV Home Integration

    By that logic, wouldn't the single motor, Rear wheel drive variant also need the structure? Difference being on a Maverick the "single motor" option is front wheel drive. It's the opposite on the Fathom.
  8. Something Important, Say No to Door handles.

    Anyone familiar with the electronic door handles on a Fisker Ocean? They fail and literally trap you inside. Very interesting rabbit hole if you care to learn about the open source project for Fisker owners after bankruptcy. Anyway, firmly in the camp of cable operated door handles over...
  9. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    You make an interesting point. The cell size is currently unknown for the Fathom, bur we can look at current market offerings in LifePO4 cells for a comparison. A 48v nominal battery in LifePO4 chemistry requires 16 cells in series. One LifPO4 cells is 3.2v nominal. 16 x 3.2v equals 51.2...
  10. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    Good info and comparison to Tesla 48 volt battery from Cybertruck. Expensive to replace. But no economy of scale versus a 12v lead acid ecosystem that's been around for almost a 100 years.
  11. Ford Fathom Design Wishlist: High-Efficiency Colors & Smoother Multi-EV Home Integration

    In a sub $30,000 vehicle? There is a reason the current system offered by GM and the former system by Ford cost $10,000+ and still doesn't work... This is a very complex and complicated ask. I don't see it happening at this price point.
  12. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    Booooooooooo!!!!!! Dislike this hard, hoping it's just speculation and not true. One of my favorite things about my Lightning is how similar it is to an F-150 inside and out. I hated the Model 3 center screen only when I rented one. Ford, don't make this truck too Tesla. Make it still Ford please!
  13. X-Plan pricing for Fathom

    I leased my Lightning from Granger. Good folks. I hope they offer 3% under invoice for the Fathom. Order one from there for sure.
  14. Toyota Highlander EV 3 row SUV

    What PHEV does she have? My wife isn't convinced by my Lighting, she wants to take the interim step of a PHEV SUV first. We have been casually looking at a Mazda CX-90 PHEV but not seriously.
  15. X-Plan pricing for Fathom

    I want to start a discussion about Ford X-plan pricing and applicability for the Fathom. Has anybody heard if it applies or is excluded? My employer offers X-plan with Ford as a benefit of employment. If your employer doesn't, joining Mustang Club of America is an option. The other benefit of...
  16. Toyota Highlander EV 3 row SUV

    My wife has a 2022 Explorer and I would like to replace it with Electric. This Highlander is a leading candidate. Pricing is unknown at this point. Estimates are approx. $55,000.
  17. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    So it was sold without it... It didn't have to meet the EMI/EMC testing... Then they turned it on for you after the sale... ;)
  18. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    I felt the same way about the Frunk when I got my Lightning... Then I started using it and found it very helpful. The bed is much larger and higher bed sides on a Lightning than a Maverick. So not apples to apples. But using the Lightning frunk is very convenient. For Family road trips, keeping...
  19. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    I agree with your sentiment completely. A little peak behind the curtain... It's incredibly difficult to pass EMI/EMC testing for AM radio in vehicles. We do it in my day job. AM radio is very susceptible to interference from all the electrical noises that vehicles these days generate. There...
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