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When we’re at war with the machines in a few years, I would want my ADAS to be sandboxed from the networked part of the compute unit.

I imagine Ford has the resources to lobby the feds against any ban if they feel the need.

I think commodorebob mentioned that their explorer got 500 miles and the switch to 300 of the Toyota would be disappointing. I was assuming he was talking about battery range. I did hybrids, but I’m done paying for gas these days.

I honestly wouldn’t dare pay for a 500mi battery. I need to pay my bills and eat…

Do you have on accessories to your MachE? Like roof racks or something?

I love the big chunky door handles, but I hate not having a keyed entry. That needs to come back. It’s better to have options

Honestly, this falls in about the specs and price I expected for the fathom… except the truck stuff. Maybe we’ll see long range and AWD for the similar upper-30’s.

I imagine Ford is using battery tech a generation or two back. The newer LFPs are not as cost effective. Dang, who wouldn’t like to have that fast blade 2.0 charging in 9 minutes? We don’t get those nice things in the states 😭

Yeah, it always varies. I haven’t found Slate to play fast and loose with their numbers so far. Remember when they advertised 150 miles for the old “standard range” option? No one would do that in the US market unless they were serious…

Also, if the extended range battery isn’t LFP, but instead NMC, being more energy dense, the cost could be greater for the bigger battery.

I think the idea of a ~200 mile standard range makes sense. The Fathom will be more aero than the Slate, but was projected to have a smaller (51kw?) battery, compared to Slate’s 63kw. Weight matters more than aero until highway speeds, so both of these smaller trucks should be efficient in town...

I don’t think the Fathom will be a loss leader, but if it’s supposed to be a low-cost pivot to SDVs, it will be low margin and subscription features will help recoup capex costs sooner. Also, it could be a sort-of loss leader if it’s a pilot for future UEV vehicles, which will cost less to bring...