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  1. Fathom vs. Mach-E

    Honest question: Is Mach-E really that small? I saw a YouTube video review today from a guy who is 6'10" tall and he fit perfectly fine in the front and back of a Mach-E. He even had headroom in the rear! Seems like that car has excellent people and cargo space.
  2. Something Important, Say No to Door handles.

    Winter can be a pain. I get door handles covered in ice every year. But it's pretty each to chip or melt ice off a door handle. Not so easy to do when it's a button integrated into the body of the vehicle.
  3. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    Do I need to get out crayons? There is already a CONFIRMED issue with 12V battery systems draining quickly on electric vehicles, including F-150 Lightning. AND, I had the issue myself on my own Lightning. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=12v+ev+battery+drains+quickly There, I googled it for...
  4. Fathom vs. Mach-E

    An interesting thought.... So it looks like a Fathom with AWD, ER battery, and one or two options is probably going to land somewhere between $35k and $40k MSRP. We've already seen a dealer post here that they will sell at MSRP. Perhaps in the coming months we'll find dealers willing to...
  5. Serramonte Ford Colma, CA Fathom Plan

    Also need to remember that sometimes demand outpaces expectation when a new vehicle launches. We've seen that before. And when that happens, a lot of people will end up waiting for a long while to get one.
  6. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    If nobody knows then none of the rhetoric on the previous page of this thread was necessary. A simple, "nobody is sure how Ford will handle this yet" would have sufficed. Until then I'll stand by my statement that removing the 12V system seems like a dumb, and expensive in the future, way to...
  7. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    Correct. I have two 12V batteries AND a diesel engine onboard. One energy source handles memory, key fob access, and a host of other functions. The other powers the driveline. If one or two batteries die, I can rectify that issue at home in mere minutes and the driveline is back into full...
  8. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    And it hasn't been incorporated in vehicles as of 2026. Pull the negative battery cable on your vehicle for 15 minutes and then hook it back up and see how many settings/presets/features you have to reconfigure. Better yet, pull the negative battery cable and see if you can even get INTO the...
  9. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    Rumors? I experienced it first hand. And, all a guy has to do is browse the Web for 3 minutes and find LOTS of examples of this being a problem. You described the same thing that was described on page 1. That doesn't answer the question. Let's try again. So if EV's have known issues with...
  10. 2027 Ford electric truck replaces 12V with 48V zonal architecture

    The more I read, the more I dislike this vehicle. On the F-150 Lightning (and other EVs as well from what I’ve seen across the Web) one of the common issues is that the system will drain the 12V battery in about a week. That’s why it’s so important to totally disconnect 12V power if you plan...
  11. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    Um, no. The Maverick Tremor is $41k. That's what I want....but electric.
  12. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    Where did I mention price? :facepalm:
  13. Something Important, Say No to Door handles.

    What happens in winter when the car is covered in snow and ice? You just walk to work? Use your phone to unlock the door and hope you can find a way to pry it open since there's no handle? I hope for real handles. The less electronic and computerized junk they put on this truck, the more...
  14. What features do you hope the Fathom might have?

    I hope they do a Tremor trim level. Slight bit of extra ride height, all-terrain tires, slightly better suspension travel, and a rear locking differential. That would be sweet.
  15. It is not Ranchero. It is Ford Fathom™. $28,350 Starting Price

    Probably not very close, since that rendering doesn't look like a Ford product whatsoever. They will at least keep some of the Ford design language in the Fathom. That rendering looks like Nissan or Honda.
  16. Two Fathom EVs spotted @ Tesla supercharging station in California

    I agree. If it looks like that rendering I'll have second thoughts. That's a Toyota Sienna with a small bed. Hideous. Yeah, the front is THE proper place for a charge port. Makes charging at home much easier too. The towing issue is going to be a problem no matter what, which is another...
  17. Dimensions for midsized and compact trucks for comparison. Also the RAV4 since it was offered as a reference for passenger compartment.

    All I really need is the ability to put four adults inside the cab comfortably, which most mid-sized trucks do not offer. I also would like to have a minimum of 5 ft in the cargo box and ideally a little bit more, but I realize that Fathom is going to be classified as a compact, so it's unlikely...
  18. Ford Fathom Design Wishlist: High-Efficiency Colors & Smoother Multi-EV Home Integration

    My concern would be on a tiny little bed, like what we're going to end up with on this truck. Is there enough surface area to provide enough solar panels to do any good? I've seen guys on the F-150 Lightning Forum try things like this and even gasoline-powered generators mounted in the bed to...
  19. Tim: You will be surprised (in a good way) how cheap it will be for the ER battery

    One way I've always looked at this is: if I'm buying a gasoline or diesel truck, would I pay $5,000 to get a fuel tank that's 3 gallons larger? The obvious answer is absolutely not. And so, it is a bit of a curiosity that when the powertrain changes to electric, people are immediately willing...
  20. Tim: You will be surprised (in a good way) how cheap it will be for the ER battery

    Isn't the upgrade on Mach-E $4k? And it results in nowhere near 100 miles of additional range.
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