Fathom info (including infotainment & ADAS) -- from Ford presentation at Morgan Stanley 14th Annual Laguna Conference

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Ford Motor Company (F) Presents at Morgan Stanley's 14th Annual Laguna Conference Transcript

Article may be paywalled for some so here is the portion about the Fathom:

Andrew Percoco
Morgan Stanley, Research Division

I want to turn it on and really experience that. How do you think about democratizing the hardware across vehicles? There's an added cost associated with that. You can either say, okay, customer, a, you have to pay for that if you want it or you could say, we, Ford, will bear that cost upfront, knowing that we'll have an opportunity down the road to benefit from that as customers decide to turn on that subscription. So how do you think about that internally in terms of what the process is?

Michael Aragon
President of Integrated Services

Right now, especially in this environment, it's really important for us to be -- meet our customers where they are in the journey. And we know a lot of -- there's a lot -- a larger cohort of our customers where affordability, that's the #1 factor. And so when we think about some of this hardware, especially the more expensive hardware, we need to keep it affordable on the lower-level trims. And so we don't try to standard -- we don't standardize. We don't try to push that because we want to meet them where they are in that journey.
On the middle and higher-level trims, we see a lot higher propensity or willingness to purchase. And so that's where we try to standardize our software, especially BlueCruise. We also do look at the vehicle trends.

And so I have a good example. Ford Fathom is launching. It's a sub-$30,000 vehicle. It's considered affordable. But the cohort of customers that we're seeing that are going to be very tech forward, younger, that have a lot of expectations.

In addition, we are dealing where we have some competition who are a little bit more bare bones. And so we see ourselves in a really good advantage spot here where we are going to make that available to every single vehicle, one, because the customer seems like they're the ones that would want it; and two, because it distinguishes us against from products that are -- don't have quite the number of features that we believe are going to be able to pack into that Ford Fathom for under $30,000.

Andrew Percoco
Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Yes. It's like a really interesting dynamic in terms of the strategies that OEMs are taking in terms of layering that hardware in versus making it more of a bundle package. And I guess when you think about it, you mentioned the Fathom as being a vehicle where it's going to be standardized. But as you think about the broader integrated services opportunity, whether it's an F-150 or a Mach-E, retail kind of focused vehicle, how do those services -- what's the opportunity? How does it differ across those vehicle types? Yes, If you could just maybe elaborate on that?

Michael Aragon
President of Integrated Services

Yes, yes. So in the near term, the experience is going to be different between our EVs and our F-150s, and that's actually a good thing for the business.

And the reason why is because with UEV, which is Fathom, launching next year, we're launching a couple of things that are homegrown. One is our electrical architecture that's homegrown. So traditionally, we had used multiple suppliers for components like IVI (In-Vehicle Infotainment) and ADAS (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems) and audio, and now we're going to consolidate that into our homegrown platform, single compute platform. So that's great.

And what's great for the customer, from their perspective, what they're going to get a lot more frequent OTAs, a lot more features in general because it's easier for us to do this instead of having to coordinate across a bunch of disparate organizations. And then it's going to feel a lot more cohesive because we're able to think about it as an ecosystem and tie those various components together a lot easier than it is if you have multiple partners doing it. So customer experience is going to be great.

But the thing for Ford and for customers is because we're building this in-house, margin is going to be a lot better. It's a lot more economical for both of us. And so the experience is going to feel -- the margins just improve on that one. I think one of the things I'm also excited about is this new electrical architecture will be on 90% of our vehicle fleet by 2030.

Andrew Percoco
Morgan Stanley, Research Division

And you mentioned building that in-house versus outsourcing some of that technology. We're going to get into that in a little bit more detail shortly. But I want to ask a little bit about the BlueCruise functionality. I think there's -- at least from our perspective, a very big focus on personal autonomy right now.
Obviously, everything that Tesla has been doing as it relates to FSD. So when you think about the functionality as where it is today, how do you see that road map progressing over the next, call it, 2 or 3 years, whether it's point-to-point, eyes off? Like what are the key milestones that you've really tasked the team at hitting over the next few years?

Michael Aragon
President of Integrated Services

Yes. To give you a -- to just establish a little bit of a baseline where we are today, even in the 1.5 years that I've been here, it's a product that I would characterize as have gone from good to great. Our recent upgrade is that the vehicles now do auto lane change, and so it's the vehicle making decisions for our customers and just making the ride even more seamless. We just announced this week that we're doing BlueCruise with towing in our F-150 lineup in 2027, so that's another additive feature that's important for especially that cohort of customers.

And so we're going to keep evolving this product based on the use cases of our customers. But one thing that will signal a little bit how we're thinking about this, and this goes back to our in-house ADAS and our in-house electrical architecture, but we recently did a partnership with Apple Maps. As you know, Apple Maps has spent a lot of time and resource making that product a lot better over the past couple of years, and they were really willing to work with us on integrating their maps more deeply into our ADAS systems.

And so from a customer's perspective, what they're going to be able -- they're going to feel is a mapping function that's more deeply integrated into ADAS. It's going to have a lot of better road visibility because you're not just relying on sensors that are looking right ahead of you. You've got now that the maps data that's going to be able to signal where are there chargers, where are there bends in the road, where are actually the off-ramps happening.

And so it's going to feel lot more integrated and seamless to the customer. And so that's -- I can't disclose everything that we're doing today because we are going to talk about a lot of this over the next year before Fathom comes out. But that experience is going to feel just a lot more cohesive and is one thing, especially as we think about those integration points with partners like Apple.

Andrew Percoco
Morgan Stanley, Research Division

So when you think about the milestones or the progress in terms of increasing that functionality, how much of it needs to be done on a software-defined architecture like what you're doing with Fathom versus the existing architectures? I'm just curious if there's like a tech ceiling for the existing platforms, if it's not on UEV as it relates to autonomy and do you eventually have to transition everything?

Michael Aragon
President of Integrated Services

Well, this specific example is going to be on 90% of our fleet, which includes gas, hybrid and then electrical vehicles. So the way we've architected, it will be flexible across multiple drivetrains.

Explanation of: In-Vehicle Infotainment (IVI) and Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS)

Modern automotive electronic architecture relies on the integration of In-Vehicle Infotainment (IVI) and Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS), increasingly merging into unified central compute units or smart cockpits.

In-Vehicle Infotainment (IVI) Components
IVI systems manage the digital cockpit, connectivity, and passenger experience:

• Integrated Head Unit (IHU): A dashboard-mounted, tablet-like touchscreen serving as the primary control center for media, settings, and navigation.
• Digital Instrument Cluster: High-resolution digital gauge displays replacing traditional mechanical dials to show vehicle speed, battery/fuel range, and alerts.
• Heads-Up Display (HUD): A transparent projection system on the windshield displaying real-time speed, turn-by-turn directions, or safety warnings directly in the driver's line of sight.
• High-Performance Processors (SoCs, GPUs, DSPs): Specialized automotive silicon (such as advanced automotive chips from Qualcomm or Arm-based architectures) powering multi-display rendering and real-time responsiveness.
• Operating Systems & Middleware: Software platforms (such as specialized Linux, QNX, or Android Automotive) that support downloadable apps, updates, and user profiles.
• Connectivity Modules: Integrated Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, and cellular (4G/5G) modems connecting the vehicle to the cloud, smartphones, and external networks.
• Cabin Sensors & Cameras: In-cabin cameras and microphones tracking driver drowsiness, occupant identification, and supporting gesture or voice commands.

Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS) Components
ADAS features focus on active safety, environmental sensing, and automated driving maneuvers:

• Sensors and Perceptions:
  • LiDAR and Radar: Depth-mapping and long-range object detection sensors used for cruise control, collision avoidance, and highway pilot features.
  • Cameras: High-resolution surround-view, front, and side-mirror cameras handling lane tracking, traffic sign recognition, and 3D environment visualization.
  • Ultrasonic Sensors: Short-range sound-wave transmitters used primarily for automated parking and low-speed obstacle detection.
• Central Compute Units (CCUs) / ECUs: High-throughput Electronic Control Units running real-time AI computer vision models and priority-scheduled safety algorithms.
• Actuators: Electronic systems that physically manipulate steering, braking, and acceleration based on computer decisions (enabling features like lane-keep assist or emergency braking).
• V2X (Vehicle-to-Everything) Modules: Communication systems allowing the car to talk to other vehicles (V2V) or roadside infrastructure (V2I) to anticipate road hazards

 

[mark]

Thanks for sharing. If all of these features come on the Fathom, this will truly be a leading edge release. HUD is feature I have been waiting for.

• Heads-Up Display (HUD): A transparent projection system on the windshield displaying real-time speed, turn-by-turn directions, or safety warnings directly in the driver's line of sight.

 

[ScooterAsheville]

>> this new electrical architecture will be on 90% of our vehicle fleet by 2030

That is a huge statement with big implications across the Ford product line.

edit: I guess I'd dial back what I said depending on what he meant by "system". Just the software? The software and the 48V wiring harness? The zonal compute? If I had to guess, I betcha "system" is maybe just the software. Hard to see Ford putting new wiring harnesses, zonal compute, and 48V on their fleet in three years.

 

[DeluxeStang]

>> this new electrical architecture will be on 90% of our vehicle fleet by 2030

That is a huge statement with big implications across the Ford product line.

Imagine a mustang with this tech, and architecture, that would be incredible.

 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

When we’re at war with the machines in a few years, I would want my ADAS to be sandboxed from the networked part of the compute unit.

 

[WXman]

If this is such an amazing idea, why didn't they do it years ago?

This is all clearly an effort to cut as much cost as they can out of building the vehicle due to recent economic strain on buyers who are sick of $60k vehicles. And therefore I am MOST anxious to see how this translates to the real world in terms of reliability, durability, and longevity of the Fathom and its components. The software will be fine but what about the hardware?

I can go to a popular sporting goods chain and buy a pair of running shoes for $179 right now. Or I can go to Walmart and buy similar shoes for $28 right now. But they are not the same. If they were, the $179 ones wouldn't exist.

 

[mark]

I agree with you on why the change has occured. Japan has taken US market share since the late 70’s. Then Korea started to take US market share. China made a deal with Tesla; We give you money, you give us technology. They now have reduced the cost of EV production and are addressing GLOBAL market share domination. Legacy auto makers are facing change or extinction. Toyota, VW, and Mercedes Benz have openly stated as much. Ford appears to have decided to adopt and improve on the Tesla technology and compete. Will it worK? If they do what they claim, yes; if they follow the path that you anticipate, then you will be proven right, and I am like you anxious to see the results.

 

[ScooterAsheville]

When we’re at war with the machines in a few years, I would want my ADAS to be sandboxed from the networked part of the compute unit.

I left my software days in the rear view mirror a few years back. But I still remember (in my last years) being amazed at what I could get done in 20 milliseconds on a CPU with a high CPU core count and clever parallel-optimized algorithms.

So I figure, if it comes to war with the machines, it'll maybe last all of 200 milliseconds. And that's being generous. We might be toast inside of a few hundred CPU clock cycles. So if it happens, I'm guessing we won't feel it. I think 0.2 seconds is shorter than the human pain response cycle. I mean, if you're going to wipe out humanity, you should be humane about it. It's OK if they don't feel it.

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