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I never worry about BEV battery longevity. There is a USA federal regulation governing battery warranties. I won't own any BEV that long.

Most manufacturers offer warranties that last eight years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. Beginning with the 2027 model year, the EPA will require the high-voltage battery systems in EVs and PHEVs to carry an eight-year/80,000-mile warranty
 
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I think your inside source is just making things up.

How the heck can the Fathom get only 200 miles range when Slate gets 205 mile range with their boxy EV truck.

The Fathom gets 50 more miles range just from Aero design improvements.

Also no way will the extended range pack be less than 300 miles and more likely 350+ miles.
You're assuming the entry level slate and fathom use the same size battery. What if the entry level fathom uses a smaller battery than slate but gets similar range as a result of better aero?
 

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200 mile range for 30k would be a huge disappointment. Nissan Leaf has 300 miles range for 30k. The Bolt has 262 for the same price as the Fathom. The Chevrolet equinox has 319 miles range for 37k. If those price and range rumors are true, there are numerous ev’s that have better range and price than the Fathom and they didn’t have to invent a whole new assembly line process to do it.
It's Borg, you know the reputation BORG has so we'll see if it's accurate. I agree it's a little low.
 

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It's Borg, you know the reputation BORG has so we'll see if it's accurate. I agree it's a little low.
I’ve always thought Borg was more right than wrong and enjoy his info. But what he said about the range does line up with the guy from the focus group too. I’d still take it with a grain of salt, but I’d guess there’s some truth there.
 

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I had a F-150 Lightning up until February of this year. We can agree to disagree. :cool:

Range absolutely matters!

And, there are only so many charge cycles a battery can withstand. So from an engineering standpoint, more range means a longer lasting vehicle.
200 mile range for 30k would be a huge disappointment. Nissan Leaf has 300 miles range for 30k. The Bolt has 262 for the same price as the Fathom. The Chevrolet equinox has 319 miles range for 37k. If those price and range rumors are true, there are numerous ev’s that have better range and price than the Fathom and they didn’t have to invent a whole new assembly line process to do it.
Agreed. 200 is a little low for standard. 200 in the bare minimum for optics, and I’d expect more like 210-230.

300 on extended range would be a massive disappointment. 280 would be a joke in 2027. Base model 200-300 is fine, but no one should use the words ‘extended range’ with anything less than 350 on a new model.
 
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Riley, good to see you reading and replying. It shows you care. Consider the CATL high end battery formulation replacing the FLP iron based formulation.
It's good to be here! Thanks for welcoming me.

I think your inside source is just making things up.

How the heck can the Fathom get only 200 miles range when Slate gets 205 mile range with their boxy EV truck.

The Fathom gets 50 more miles range just from Aero design improvements.

Also no way will the extended range pack be less than 300 miles and more likely 350+ miles.
While I can't comment on speculation and figures - what I will say is that the team is still going through testing, and there is a whole process with EPA for range figures (same as any vehicle and any manufacturer). So there isn't anything to actually share on this right now.
 

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Good job to team Fathom for actually coming through with a $30k truck!

All manufactures, please bring back stake pockets in the future, especially for small beds. Tiedowns and rails are useless for yard waste.

Understand this is more cost so I'm fine if the standard bed only came with 4 cutouts ontop of the rails and the actual stake holders under the bed rails was a dealer bolt on option.

Please share with the team. Thank you.

I'm going to share this with the team.
 
 
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