Serramonte Ford Colma, CA Fathom Plan

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People need to remember there are California sales tax complications for out of state buyers. You have to pay California sales tax unless the vehicle is shipped out of state by a third party. You should get a credit in your home state if you pick up and pay California sales tax, but if your local rate is lower then you eat the difference.

The reason Granger and Long-MacArthur are better for out of state buyers is their states offer transit permits with no sales tax. You pay the sales tax in your state upon registration. And their state titling systems support electronic signatures, no “wet” signature complications/costs.
 

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Also need to remember that sometimes demand outpaces expectation when a new vehicle launches. We've seen that before. And when that happens, a lot of people will end up waiting for a long while to get one.
 

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People need to remember there are California sales tax complications for out of state buyers. You have to pay California sales tax unless the vehicle is shipped out of state by a third party. You should get a credit in your home state if you pick up and pay California sales tax, but if your local rate is lower then you eat the difference.

The reason Granger and Long-MacArthur are better for out of state buyers is their states offer transit permits with no sales tax. You pay the sales tax in your state upon registration. And their state titling systems support electronic signatures, no “wet” signature complications/costs.
100% correct!

Out of state (outside CA) buyers will pay sales tax if they pick up at the CA dealer.
If it's shipped outside CA then no sales tax.

I am looking at doing the Long McArthur pickup in Salina, KS for the discount as well as a 60 day KS temporary tag.

Just found out that I have to register it with DMV within 20 days - don't know if the clock starts at the time of out of state pickup or when it enters CA.

Anyone know ?
 
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Great information Sean, do you think ford will offer the “power promise”or a 2K incentive for those who already have a charger.Thanks for all you feedback 👏
No Idea what that'll look like, it's too far out.
 

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Just found out that I have to register it with DMV within 20 days - don't know if the clock starts at the time of out of state pickup or when it enters CA.

Anyone know ?
Ask forgiveness rather than permission. ;)
 

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Just found out that I have to register it with DMV within 20 days - don't know if the clock starts at the time of out of state pickup or when it enters CA.

Anyone know ?
California is more strict about it than most states, mainly because of widespread past abuses. There is a penalty, but it is modest for the first few months or so, mainly as an incentive to just get on with it. The effective date is upon entering California, which is somewhat difficult to establish with precision anyway. Here is their penalty fee list:
  • 1 to 10 days late: $10 fee
  • 11 to 30 days late: $15 fee
  • 31 days to 1 year late: $30 fee
  • 1 year to 2 years late: 40% penalty of the vehicle license fee/weight fee plus additional standard delinquency charges
  • More than 2 years late: Higher percentage penalties and accumulated back fees
At least the Fathom avoids the mandatory smog test!
 
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100% correct!

Out of state (outside CA) buyers will pay sales tax if they pick up at the CA dealer.
If it's shipped outside CA then no sales tax.

I am looking at doing the Long McArthur pickup in Salina, KS for the discount as well as a 60 day KS temporary tag.

Just found out that I have to register it with DMV within 20 days - don't know if the clock starts at the time of out of state pickup or when it enters CA.

Anyone know ?
What's Long McArthur's discount?
 

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Do I need an X-plan pin before ordering?
No. AXZD-Plan PINs are needed when you actually go to buy the vehicle, not order it. Meaning the vehicle is ordered by the dealer from the factory, built, delivered to the dealer, and you're signing the paperwork to buy it. You can wait until it has been built to generate a PIN.

PINs do expire after one year, keep that in mind.

Do make sure that any dealer you order through agrees in writing to accept X-Plan on your purchase. Dealers are allowed to choose whether to accept it. They can then provide X-Plan pricing details for your order.
 

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What's Long McArthur's discount?
Typically the direct selling dealers do 3% below invoice, but sometimes 4% or even 5% depending on models. All the usual Ford incentives, public and private, also apply, subject to the normal stacking rules.

Basically they just want to sell cars and we just want to buy them, so it’s a simple and efficient relationship without unnecessary overheads.
 
 
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